Deepest sound possible [Archive] - Mustang Exhaust Forums

anthony

11-25-2009, 12:18 AM

Hi I have a stock 2005 gt and I wanted to start my modifications to it with a new exhaust system. I am very new to this so can anybody give me any suggestions as to which system I should look for if I hang the lowest exaughst note possible? Any other exhaust info would be great too.

Thanks

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 12:21 AM

Your probably going to want to look at Flowmaster or Mac with either a catted or O/R H pipe

what else do you want to know "any other exhaust info" is kinda vauge...there is a tone of exhaust info here...or if you can't find it...someone should be able to help you within a couple days...

TorchRed04GT

11-25-2009, 02:53 AM

+1^

Also check out the FRPP Stingers with an O/R H-pipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlagqg3YcYU

mrtstang

11-25-2009, 09:07 AM

Check out SSS Exhaust. Their Adrenaline mufflers are very deep sounding. It's full 304 stainless steel, quality and fitment are among the best, and their kits are under $300.

anthony

11-25-2009, 12:09 PM

Well what i basically know is that there are headers, midpipes, and cat backs on an exhaust system and that I have h pipes on my gt which are stock (I think) I guess a better question would be which of those 3 most directly changes the sound and performance? I've also hear that flowmasters aren't really much better sounding than stock? Is this true?

What combination would get me a deep, deep, sound?

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 12:54 PM

Your catback...or in your case axle back is what is going to give you your sound (tone)

The H or X pipe will give you the flow (that catback/axleback helps here too though)

and your headers will give you some power...generally Long Tube headers will be better higher in the RPM range and they generally cause the exhaust to be deeper in tone in most applications

IMO Flows sound different and better than exhaust...it also depends what mid pipe you pair it with...whoever told you they are the same is on crack lol

mrtstang

11-25-2009, 03:57 PM

IMHO, the deepest sound will come from a good straight through muffler (SSS being one) a catted h pipe, and long tube headers.

anthony

11-25-2009, 04:00 PM

wow I really like the "FRPP Stingers with an O/R H-pipe" and the sss adrenaline. From what I can tell the SSS is not as loud??

the first one sounds like it may just be too loud but how do they compare in person?

im not looking for too loud just deep

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 04:04 PM

Stingers are not that loud if you pair them with your stock H...I mean loud enough...but not like overwhelming

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 04:10 PM

IMHO, the deepest sound will come from a good straight through muffler (SSS being one) a catted h pipe, and long tube headers.

Going to have to disagree with you on that one...most chambered muffs are deeper IMO...the borla has a bubly burble to it that appears deep...but once you get her WOT she straighens out

I agree though LT's will help make them deeper...but I don't know if want's to go that route right now...

here's a cobra with stingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFKnmtxTLzw

mrtstang

11-25-2009, 04:14 PM

The Adrenalines and Stingers are very similar in tone and loudness. From what i've heard the Adrenalines are a little smoother (which seems a tad quieter) at part throttle, but very comparable in general. The SSS Terminators (which is what i have) have the same tone, but are significantly louder than Stingers.

If you want really deep you want to stay away from o/r pipes. A catted mid pipe acts much like having another muffler. Imagine your car without mufflers. It won't sound very deep...will it? By eliminating much of the raw poppy/raspy noise that o/r pipes can create, you'll deepen the sound.

mrtstang

11-25-2009, 04:24 PM

Going to have to disagree with you on that one...most chambered muffs are deeper IMO...the borla has a bubly burble to it that appears deep...but once you get her WOT she straighens out

I agree though LT's will help make them deeper...but I don't know if want's to go that route right now...

here's a cobra with stingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFKnmtxTLzw

I see what you saying. I think the best way i could describe what i'm trying to say is that chambered mufflers sound deep, but more hollow to me. Whereas a straight through muffler (with a catted pipe) has a different deep tone, because it doesn't sound as hollow. Does that makes sense?

anthony

11-25-2009, 04:42 PM

So which would you prefer of the two? Why would I not be interested in headers at this time? Are they hard to install?

anthony

11-25-2009, 04:49 PM

Also what's an o/r? Sorry I'm very new at this

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 04:59 PM

I see what you saying. I think the best way i could describe what i'm trying to say is that chambered mufflers sound deep, but more hollow to me. Whereas a straight through muffler (with a catted pipe) has a different deep tone, because it doesn't sound as hollow. Does that makes sense?

Well being an SLP guy I just like it straight RAW (sexy) LOL...but yeah it's a totally different tone with different depths of deepness...but I still it all comes down to the mid as far as keeping that deep sound...although I have hears some O/R's out there that do sound very deep...so...it really all depends...just get something you like...cause you have to hear it all the time and your set LOL :banana:

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 05:01 PM

So which would you prefer of the two? Why would I not be interested in headers at this time? Are they hard to install?

you will lose some low end power with headers but you can make up with it with a gear though...oh I'm talking Long Tube headers that is...I dont' know what else you have for mods as far as power...so if your car was completely stock...that would be my reasoning for saying away from LT headers...ususally one of the last mods you do...or if you know your going to be doing some in the near future

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 05:02 PM

Also what's an o/r? Sorry I'm very new at this

O/R is just short for Off Road meaning no cats in the midpipe

mrtstang

11-25-2009, 05:50 PM

So which would you prefer of the two? Why would I not be interested in headers at this time? Are they hard to install?

Based on what you're saying, i think the Adrenalines would be more of what you're looking for. They are a tad deeper and smoother from what i've seen.

Long tube headers are a pain to install, but are worth it IMO. I actually picked up tq & hp from like 2k all the way to redline. The sound alone was worth it to me.

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 05:59 PM

Man...I just read over my post...I got alot of friggin spelling errors lmao

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 06:01 PM

Based on what you're saying, i think the Adrenalines would be more of what you're looking for. They are a tad deeper and smoother from what i've seen.

Long tube headers are a pain to install, but are worth it IMO. I actually picked up tq & hp from like 2k all the way to redline. The sound alone was worth it to me.

keep in mind LT's are built to give you better high end power...most likely you lost some low end...but you have the gears to make up for it and a few other mods listed in your sig so that's why it feels better to you

for someone staying stock...LT can actually hurt performance

mrtstang

11-25-2009, 06:14 PM

keep in mind LT's are built to give you better high end power...most likely you lost some low end...but you have the gears to make up for it and a few other mods listed in your sig so that's why it feels better to you

for someone staying stock...LT can actually hurt performance

I've heard the same thing, but for whatever reason my ride responded well. All i know is that with my the exact same mods that i have now (except stock manifolds and a MRT catted h) i picked up noticable power almost everywhere with just the long tubes.

Maybe the few extra boltons make the difference...i don't know!

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 06:26 PM

I've heard the same thing, but for whatever reason my ride responded well. All i know is that with my the exact same mods that i have now (except stock manifolds and a MRT catted h) i picked up noticable power almost everywhere with just the long tubes.

Maybe the few extra boltons make the difference...i don't know!

Every little bit counts and can help play off each other :)

anthony

11-25-2009, 08:23 PM

hm so I think im leaning more towards the adrenalines now. is that everyone's oppinion?

what part do they replace exactly? everything affter the midpipes or just the mufflers and tips

Cobra4me

11-25-2009, 08:25 PM

anthony

11-25-2009, 08:51 PM

I have read this whole thread. The OP has an 05GT not a 99-04. Headers are not going to be too beneficial other than sound. I am not an expert but I read alot and with LT's on a 3V I dont think you will pick up much HP gains. It is kinda different with the 5.4 SC car because with a JLT intake and LT headers I picked up almost 80HP from my baseline tune. Ok with all this being said. You already have the Hpipe which everybody here is crazy about. To get the best sound I suggest the FRPP 5GT (stingers), the bassani race mufflers or the Magnaflow magnapacks which will be axlebacks. Here is my car with the stingers, catted xpipe and Kooks LT headers to give you some reference,

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Robk17th/th_IMG_0160.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Robk17th/?action=view&current=IMG_0160.flv)

Now thats pretty cool :thumbsup: so stingers over SSS? also the bassani and magnaflow, are they everything after the midpipes? Thata what I get confused about, are they just the mufflers or pipes or everything or what?

also last thing whats the difference between an axleback and cat-back?

Thanks for all the help guys I know its difficult dealing with beginers:worship:

Ghost Rider

11-25-2009, 09:58 PM

I have read this whole thread. The OP has an 05GT not a 99-04. Headers are not going to be too beneficial other than sound. I am not an expert but I read alot and with LT's on a 3V I dont think you will pick up much HP gains. It is kinda different with the 5.4 SC car because with a JLT intake and LT headers I picked up almost 80HP from my baseline tune. Ok with all this being said. You already have the Hpipe which everybody here is crazy about. To get the best sound I suggest the FRPP 5GT (stingers), the bassani race mufflers or the Magnaflow magnapacks which will be axlebacks. Here is my car with the stingers, catted xpipe and Kooks LT headers to give you some reference,

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Robk17th/th_IMG_0160.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Robk17th/?action=view&current=IMG_0160.flv)

and picking up 80 hp is a little different with a 500 hp car to start with...but still find it hard to beleive that's without a tune?

you won't be getting that much out of a gt and if you do pick up some hp...it doesn't mean its useable...you may pick up 20 hp in the 5-6K rpm range but unless you drive up there all there all the time...won't do much good...if your running track...then that's a different story

on a side note...your not going to get anything out of LT's without a tune atleast anyways...

man...I'm tired...not sure if I'm making sense but too lazy to go back and read what I put

mrtstang

11-25-2009, 10:23 PM

hm so I think im leaning more towards the adrenalines now. is that everyone's oppinion?

what part do they replace exactly? everything affter the midpipes or just the mufflers and tips

The axle back will basically replace the stock mufflers and tips.

I vote the adrenalines. Their quality and fitment is every bit as good as Borla or Bassani, but much, much cheaper. You can pick them up for under $300.

Check out this clip. It shows how they sound at various speeds. The guy has short tube headers with a stock mid pipe, so the sound won't be much different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyE8CesqROM&feature=related

anthony

11-26-2009, 12:06 AM

That sounds nice. I think that's what I'm looking for really but I can't decide! Each video sounds better then the next haha. Now I'm back to the adrenaline.

For the SSS adrenalines it's all bolt on and stuff right? I consider myself handy but by no means a mechanic, those are like 300 bucks right?

anthony

11-26-2009, 12:12 AM

Also I was thinking about adding a shaker from Americanmuscle.com besides the fact that I think there bada$$ does anybody have one?

I'm mainly getting it for cosmetic reasons and haven't really looked into them that much yet buch do they change sound or performance at all? Would it get in the way of any aftermarket headers you think?

Again thanks!

Ghost Rider

11-26-2009, 12:22 AM

I have a couple of shakers...:jest:

mrtstang

11-26-2009, 12:28 AM

Yep, it's all bolt on, and they're just under $300. In all honesty, putting on a aftermarket axle back is really easy. I helped my brother with his 06 gt, and it was a piece of cake.

My bro also had a shaker installed recently. It will not add any horsepower though, and will not get in the way of aftermarket headers.

Ghost Rider

11-26-2009, 12:45 AM

Alright...I've kept my mouth shut long enough on this topic lol...if you want a badass mother of an exhaust...then just go SLP...RAW Deep and unmistakable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_cyXu24h8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MUScSKK0w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg82nTBqv1Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5NmHCa0wlI&feature=related

anthony

11-26-2009, 01:19 AM

They both sound really nice. I think I'm leaning more adrenaline though, nice deep and smooth sound while not being too obnoxious.

How much are the ones you just said? Which are nicer at idle? Sounds like SSS too me but it's 1 in the morning haha.

Ghost Rider

11-26-2009, 01:26 AM

^^^lol...who are you talking too?

FOX ROD

11-26-2009, 10:06 AM

One of our members (Swiss026) runs an aftermarket h-pipe with cats and Borla Stingers and his car is very deep IMO without being obnoxiously loud. Your 3V car will sound very loud with an o/r h. The '05-up cars have virtually no tailpipe after the muffler to tame the volume of the muffler unlike pre '05's. You may want to consider running cats or a resonator of some sort especially with the aggressive mufflers your considering.

anthony

11-26-2009, 12:31 PM

^^^lol...who are you talking too?

The group/whoever will listen lol.

One of our members (Swiss026) runs an aftermarket h-pipe with cats and Borla Stingers and his car is very deep IMO without being obnoxiously loud. Your 3V car will sound very loud with an o/r h. The '05-up cars have virtually no tailpipe after the muffler to tame the volume of the muffler unlike pre '05's. You may want to consider running cats or a resonator of some sort especially with the aggressive mufflers your considering.

Don't I already have cats on my stock midpipes? If I didn't change out my midpipes and just put on the adrenalines do you think it will be too loud still?

Ghost Rider

11-26-2009, 06:01 PM

^^^no if you leave your stocker pipe it will be fine

Cobra4me

11-26-2009, 09:02 PM

and picking up 80 hp is a little different with a 500 hp car to start with...but still find it hard to beleive that's without a tune?

you won't be getting that much out of a gt and if you do pick up some hp...it doesn't mean its useable...you may pick up 20 hp in the 5-6K rpm range but unless you drive up there all there all the time...won't do much good...if your running track...then that's a different story

on a side note...your not going to get anything out of LT's without a tune atleast anyways...

man...I'm tired...not sure if I'm making sense but too lazy to go back and read what I put
I got a tune also, I didnt say either way. My comment to the Op was that LTs where not beneficial for HP gains with his setup.

Ghost Rider

11-26-2009, 10:02 PM

^^^yeah that's what I had said before also....so here's my next question...what is an Op?

anthony

11-26-2009, 10:59 PM

Op means original poster I think.

I know this isn't really a exhaust question but since um out of then can anyone explain tuning to me? Do I need to buy a tuner and tunes for whatever bolt on upgrades I get? Gears? This exhaust? Lowering springs? Cold air intake? Thanks a lot and thanks for all the help choosing!

FOX ROD

11-27-2009, 09:37 AM

Don't I already have cats on my stock midpipes? If I didn't change out my midpipes and just put on the adrenalines do you think it will be too loud still?

Yeah you do, so just bolting on the axle back kit will probably get you the sound your looking for. Your cars factory h-pipe is much more efficient than the older cars I mentioned before, so changing the midpipe won't really do much in the way of power. I was just saying if you do decide to swap out the h-pipe, you may want to consider staying with a cat equipped mid-pipe for volume purposes.