Apathy
04-02-2009, 01:46 AM
Ok, here is the story.. Havent driven a a 5 speed, in almost 10 years, i was 16 when i had my last 5 speed, needless to say, i didnt know how to drive then... and ended up blowing the clutch on a car with 125k miles on it... Now at almost 30... i still cant drive properly.. (sure i can drive, but i cant DRIVE "fast, efficiently, and with as little damage to the clutch as possible)
Always wanted the stang, but couldent afford it at 16, so i bought a 93 probe (chuckles) loved that car..
sooo, i am watching videos and i am getting "lessons,tips" from a mercedes tech in the upcoming days, but i am going to ask several questions here, as cross reference. Ive been watching several online videos with references to double clutching, toeheel shifting, and rev matching techniques.
1. your coming into a slow stop from 40mph in 4th, you want to take a 90degree turn, so basically you want it in 2nd before or during the turn for maximum acceleration out of the turn... you can
A. heel-toe downshift.. which i am still learning
b. Brake, and switch into the lower gear, before or during the corner, while trying not to shift to soon
c. Downshift while rev matching
d. Downshifting and timing the revs manually starting 1/4 a mile back, so you dont have to blip the throttle
Generally i do D... but supposedly, that wears the hell out of the clutch... and its not very efficient... since ive been watching videos... ive been working on my rev matching, which isnt too hard... But i was told not to use the clutch "AT ALL" to slow down.. How about, Rev Matching then slowing down by easing off the accelerator, is that okay??? its faster then manually timing it, but not quite as efficient as heel-toe downshifts...
Double clutching... The purpose of it? is it neccessary? I ussually Just Clutch, pull out of 4th, push to 3rd, and rev match, without double clutching.... is this bad? I just dont understand the purpose of lifting off the clutch in neutral when you can just down shift with one clutch.. any explanations would be appreciated...
As far as forward movement.. i can start uphill without the handbrake, 1st - 5th, with very little jerking during the shifts, unless of course i am gunning it, and shifting at 5300rpm then it can get a little choppy, cause i need to learn to clutch faster, without lifting my foot off the clutch to soon.. or too fast (therefore im not even going to try powershifting yet, cause i am still too slow on the clutch)
anyways.. thanks for any help you can give,
Always wanted the stang, but couldent afford it at 16, so i bought a 93 probe (chuckles) loved that car..
sooo, i am watching videos and i am getting "lessons,tips" from a mercedes tech in the upcoming days, but i am going to ask several questions here, as cross reference. Ive been watching several online videos with references to double clutching, toeheel shifting, and rev matching techniques.
1. your coming into a slow stop from 40mph in 4th, you want to take a 90degree turn, so basically you want it in 2nd before or during the turn for maximum acceleration out of the turn... you can
A. heel-toe downshift.. which i am still learning
b. Brake, and switch into the lower gear, before or during the corner, while trying not to shift to soon
c. Downshift while rev matching
d. Downshifting and timing the revs manually starting 1/4 a mile back, so you dont have to blip the throttle
Generally i do D... but supposedly, that wears the hell out of the clutch... and its not very efficient... since ive been watching videos... ive been working on my rev matching, which isnt too hard... But i was told not to use the clutch "AT ALL" to slow down.. How about, Rev Matching then slowing down by easing off the accelerator, is that okay??? its faster then manually timing it, but not quite as efficient as heel-toe downshifts...
Double clutching... The purpose of it? is it neccessary? I ussually Just Clutch, pull out of 4th, push to 3rd, and rev match, without double clutching.... is this bad? I just dont understand the purpose of lifting off the clutch in neutral when you can just down shift with one clutch.. any explanations would be appreciated...
As far as forward movement.. i can start uphill without the handbrake, 1st - 5th, with very little jerking during the shifts, unless of course i am gunning it, and shifting at 5300rpm then it can get a little choppy, cause i need to learn to clutch faster, without lifting my foot off the clutch to soon.. or too fast (therefore im not even going to try powershifting yet, cause i am still too slow on the clutch)
anyways.. thanks for any help you can give,