Let the mods begin!

[Shaffe]

time to start modding the GT

[Pain Train79]

whats first?

[A-townStang]

i agree. whats first? lol

[03SlidewayzSVT]

Helion turbo kit, full exhaust bassani:thumbsup: just to start you off:devil:

[Pain Train79]

+1 on the turbo!

[Pain Train79]

or this...

http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/ford/gt05-06_3v/gt05-06_3v.htm

[A-townStang]

or this...

http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/ford/gt05-06_3v/gt05-06_3v.htm

theres a guy that comes to the meets here that has the 2.6 on his 06 Roush, its f-ing schweeet.

[Pain Train79]

thats my spring investment. looks like it will be $3600 for the fully polished

[03SlidewayzSVT]

LOL that KB will destroy you motor....Lets do it:devil:

[Pain Train79]

how would it destroy it? it's made to bolt to stock parts. they don't even recommend having it tuned. the only thing they recommend is the bigger mass air kit and throttle body.

[03SlidewayzSVT]

Ok never mine...you do that and let me know how that works out for you....

[Pain Train79]

no seriously, i really don't know. what did you mean exactly?

[GerRrg281]

:jest: ^

oh....well do what probably none of us have done, but think about your goals for the car...and go from there....if you want to get a supercharger more than anything....then just save to get one, maybe modify the exhaust system and put everything else towards a supercharger....

but if you don't really care to have hundreds upon hundreds of HP and torque, i reccommend you just go with some lowering springs, exhaust, and on your car....window tint...oh and a flash tuner and CAI combo....hear that works wonders for those year stangs because of the electronic TB

[Pain Train79]

ok dammit...why did i get the jester? =)

[03SlidewayzSVT]

:jest: ^

:thumbsup::jest::jest:

[Pain Train79]

my exhaust is done, and i have window tint. as loud as my car was with the slp i didn't want to get really dark tint and draw more attention to myself.

[GerRrg281]

double :jest: ^^

because im laughing at you (slideways)

[03SlidewayzSVT]

no seriously, i really don't know. what did you mean exactly?

No really Just read there web site there heading you in the right direction:rolleyes:

[03SlidewayzSVT]

double :jest: ^^

because im laughing at you (slideways)

good because I was laughing at you!!

[GerRrg281]

people run blowers on stock GT 4.6L 281 2v engines all the time without problems.....i've heard of up to 10lbs of boost on a stock motor safely. (performance shop around here did it, hasn't had a problem with the car...although 10lbs i see as pushin your luck a little bit)

[Pain Train79]

could you stop being a smart ass for one minute and maybe actually help someone who is not fortunate enough to have the mechanical knowledge that you do. obviously i take your advice seriously, so how about you actually explain yourself.

@ slidewayz

[Pain Train79]

people run blowers on stock GT 4.6L 281 2v engines all the time without problems.....i've heard of up to 10lbs of boost on a stock motor safely. (performance shop around here did it, hasn't had a problem with the car)

good to know

[03SlidewayzSVT]

people run blowers on stock GT 4.6L 281 2v engines all the time without problems.....i've heard of up to 10lbs of boost on a stock motor safely. (performance shop around here did it, hasn't had a problem with the car...although 10lbs i see as pushin your luck a little bit)

are you talking about twin screw boost...The instant boost is what hammers the bottom end and out shoots a rod.....

[Pain Train79]

i was going to run the 6psi. i am not running this car at a track, but i want a supercharger pretty bad. so i figured i would get the low end one. says it add 106hp. i'm ok with that!

p.s. we totally hi-jacked this thread...lol

[Niehaus5oh]

poor shaffe's thread totally got hijacked lol... i wonder what mods he was talking about?

[Niehaus5oh]

BTW slidewayz, I don't see the problem with running a KB on a stock GT motor... badass has had one on his GT vert for years and hasn't had a single problem with his car... they woudln't make a kit for a GT if it would throw a rod right away obvioulsy b/c nobody would buy the kit...

[VistaBlueGT]

are you talking about twin screw boost...The instant boost is what hammers the bottom end and out shoots a rod.....

instant boost = instant power :thumbsup:

but if you destroy your motor thats all the more reason to get forged internals :D

[Pain Train79]

^^ lol, good point

[03SlidewayzSVT]

BTW slidewayz, I don't see the problem with running a KB on a stock GT motor... badass has had one on his GT vert for years and hasn't had a single problem with his car... they woudln't make a kit for a GT if it would throw a rod right away obvioulsy b/c nobody would buy the kit...

your right if you only run the ultra low boost kit....but thats no fun

[GerRrg281]

are you talking about twin screw boost...The instant boost is what hammers the bottom end and out shoots a rod.....

sorry about hi-jacking the thread....but i put my .02 in already...and i think it was pretty good advice, so refer back to that post...

but since its already hi-jacked...boost is boost regaurdless, just because you have a KB over any other supercharger application doesn't give you more or less of a chance to throw a rod...but you should know that....after all you are a mechanic at a performance shop right?....

Occupation:
Mechanic @ Dynamic Performance 704-333-5821

[Pain Train79]

@ slidewayz...well not everyone takes their car to the track. some of us just want the extra hp. also not all of us have the upper echelon career that you do, so we can know ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ABOUT MUSTANGS EVA!

[03SlidewayzSVT]

sorry about hi-jacking the thread....but i put my .02 in already...and i think it was pretty good advice, so refer back to that post...

but since its already hi-jacked...boost is boost regaurdless, just because you have a KB over any other supercharger application doesn't give you more or less of a chance to throw a rod...but you should know that....after all you are a mechanic at a performance shop right?....

Occupation:
Mechanic @ Dynamic Performance 704-333-5821

Not all boost is the same...it is far less stressfull on the bottom end with say a procharger...Its not making full boost till higher in the rpm range which is easier on the rods pushing down on the crank....
kB make instant boost and with low rpn is very stressfull on the rods....


And yes that is my work

[Pain Train79]

Not all boost is the same...it is far less stressfull on the bottom end with say a procharger...Its not making full boost till higher in the rpm range which is easier on the rods pushing down on the crank....
kB make instant boost and with low rpn is very stressfull on the rods....


And yes that is my work

side notes: slidewayz and i are no longer arguing, so in saying that...your mom is stressful on my rod! :groovy::jest:

@ shaffe: sorry for jacking this thread so bad...:thumbsup:

[03SlidewayzSVT]

side notes: slidewayz and i are no longer arguing, so in saying that...your mom is stressful on my rod! :groovy::jest:

@ shaffe: sorry for jacking this thread so bad...:thumbsup:

Oh you got moma jokes....:jest:

[Shaffe]

well now i was wondering why there were so many posts.

i was planning on starting off with a JLT Intake and a SCT tuner.

but first i need to make a base run pass at the track

[GerRrg281]

well now i was wondering why there were so many posts.

i was planning on starting off with a JLT Intake and a SCT tuner.

but first i need to make a base run pass at the track

what is your goal for the car?

[Shaffe]

no idea yet. need a baseline first to work with. i really dont want to tear into this one like i did the 04. nto gonna lie all though all i did was boltons, it lost alot of driveability to me. it was loud, loud enough to vibrate the inside opf the car and rattle any change. the CAI was a pain to access, it was low enough to where certain things would scarpe the bottom. it seemed everything i did with that car backfired and something went wrong. thats why i called it Rambo-- alwasy battling something and nothin seemed to go right.

so i really dont want to do a whole lot to this car but all depends on what i have to work wiht

[Shaffe]

like if its a total dog, i might just wake it up a bit and concentrate on the looks.

but if its got potewntial then i dont know

[Swiss026]

I'd say catback first - then tint the windows - then lower the car....

Those are safe mods that are relatively cheap, keep it drivable, help make it at least noticable and if you decide to build it up later will help with that as well (minus the tint of course).

[Pain Train79]

no idea yet. need a baseline first to work with. i really dont want to tear into this one like i did the 04. nto gonna lie all though all i did was boltons, it lost alot of driveability to me. it was loud, loud enough to vibrate the inside opf the car and rattle any change. the CAI was a pain to access, it was low enough to where certain things would scarpe the bottom. it seemed everything i did with that car backfired and something went wrong. thats why i called it Rambo-- alwasy battling something and nothin seemed to go right.

so i really dont want to do a whole lot to this car but all depends on what i have to work wiht

lol, my car rattles change REALLY bad.

[VistaBlueGT]

cai/tuner, tint, springs, exhaust, and maybe some gears...my car is very streetable...with the mods i have done so far

[davidk0321]

are you talking about twin screw boost...The instant boost is what hammers the bottom end and out shoots a rod.....

:screwy: higher rpm is what stresses the motor, that being said centrifugal s/c's rely on that rpm to generate boost....if you plan on running the engine above the factory rev limit, then you will most likely have issues. However as long as you limit the rpm, the motor will be fine with either s/c, provided it is tuned well and the owner uses quality fuel. it doesn't make a hill of shit when the boost comes on. I have an intercooled k/b setup on my 03 GT running at 8 psi, it makes great power and I have never had any issues, if you are not running at the track centri's blow because they offer no improvement in the normal operating rpm, whereas I have over 300 ft/lbs of torque at just over 2 grand. forged internals or not if your engine is not properly tuned you will break it.

[4.6MUSCLE01]

^^^+1!

[Pain Train79]

just out of curiosity, why does KB's website state that they don't recommend a tune?

[VistaBlueGT]

i think they have their own tune orsomething like that :dunno:

[Pain Train79]

it says it comes with a chip, so that makes sense

[03SlidewayzSVT]

:screwy: higher rpm is what stresses the motor, that being said centrifugal s/c's rely on that rpm to generate boost....if you plan on running the engine above the factory rev limit, then you will most likely have issues. However as long as you limit the rpm, the motor will be fine with either s/c, provided it is tuned well and the owner uses quality fuel. it doesn't make a hill of shit when the boost comes on. I have an intercooled k/b setup on my 03 GT running at 8 psi, it makes great power and I have never had any issues, if you are not running at the track centri's blow because they offer no improvement in the normal operating rpm, whereas I have over 300 ft/lbs of torque at just over 2 grand. forged internals or not if your engine is not properly tuned you will break it.

foul language is not acceptable this is a site for everyone to be a part of and this language isnt needed

[Swiss026]

Easy boys....

[Shaffe]

you know i think ima keep the stock mufflers. theres relly no axle back that i like. (and thats what matters lol) so i might just change the mid pipe ont eh exhaust side

[VistaBlueGT]

^^^ehh...whatever floats your boat


p.s. boomtubes are better than stock :D

[GerRrg281]

flowmasters sound excellent on the 05+ GT's

i would strongly reccommend them.

[Shaffe]

flowmasters rust. if im changing the axleback its gonna be stainless steel

[Swiss026]

Borla FTW :cool:

[Shaffe]

borlas good but i already had that on the last one. kinda looking to make it different

[Niehaus5oh]

MAC makes a stainless catback lol... it sounds similar to flows but better :thumbsup:

[Swiss026]

borlas good but i already had that on the last one. kinda looking to make it different

Different - I think I heard a clip somewhere with Corsa - that sounded great and will definately be different, but also probably damn expensive.

As for the regular exhaust varieties - try out Bassani - they have an 05+ kit? They must.....

[Shaffe]

hmmmmm maybe. dad still is really pressuring me to keep the exhaust stock lol.

[Shaffe]

just listened to a Bassani setup on an 07. sounded really good actually. as long as there was no x pipe

[GerRrg281]

flowmasters rust. if im changing the axleback its gonna be stainless steel

hmmmmm maybe. dad still is really pressuring me to keep the exhaust stock lol.


stock will rust too :dunno:


i still say flowmasters....they are the perfect mixture of volume and tone.

[VistaBlueGT]

^^^stock on 05+ is stainless :thumbsup:

:D

[davidk0321]

:bs::bs:Shut the **** up!!!! Your a ****ing idiot!!! your wrong....Take your slow ass POS gt and drive your self into a ****ing wall....


:crying: go cry to your mama little boy, you know about as much about cars as the crap I just took. Sounds like someone needs their mama to wipe their ass and apply some diaper rash ointment. Or maybe no girls will give you any cause you're a douche bag.......take your ported POS eaton blower and stick it in your ass......sounds like someone is jealous......polesmoker

[davidk0321]

just out of curiosity, why does KB's website state that they don't recommend a tune?


because alot of tuners don't know what they are doing. tuning a twin screw is more challenging in that you are working with a much larger rpm window in which to have your spark curve and fuel mapping on target.......otherwise kaboom. The kb tune is ok, it is very safe but you will see a bigger dip in fuel mileage, but you can get more HP out of the kit and still be safe by having a tune done, as temp and humidity conditions vary quite a bit by region, it will also ease up on fuel consumption during normal driving.

[Swiss026]

I think you need to ease up a bit

It's like war of the ePenis - who's is bigger :jest:

http://people.ucsc.edu/~mkelly/epenis.jpg

[03SlidewayzSVT]

:crying: go cry to your mama little boy, you know about as much about cars as the crap I just took. Sounds like someone needs their mama to wipe their ass and apply some diaper rash ointment. Or maybe no girls will give you any cause you're a douche bag.......take your ported POS eaton blower and stick it in your ass......sounds like someone is jealous......polesmoker
bad language

[davidk0321]

YOUR THE POLESMOKER ASSHAT!!!! YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR ASS FROM FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND!!!! JEALOUS OF WHAT A ****ING POS SLOW ASS GT WITH 8PSI OF BOOST HAHAHAHAHAHAHA YEAH RIGHT!!!! YOUR MOMA IS A ASSHAT TOO ****ER!!!!!:fyou:

Looks like its time for someone's bottle and nap. Now go back into your trailer and shut up.......poser.

[Swiss026]

http://ken-gilbert.com/images/newfunny/ohdramaimage.jpg

http://ken-gilbert.com/images/newfunny/deargod_stop.jpg

[03SlidewayzSVT]

Looks like its time for someone's bottle and nap. Now go back into your trailer and shut up.......poser.

HAHAHAHA LOSER!!!!!:fyou:

[Shaffe]

yea like Vista said exhaust on the 05+ is stainless steel

[Swiss026]

That's a nice feature - I didn't know that....

And you two - stop hijacking the thread - start your own thread and bash it out - I'm getting tired of reading through it....

[03SlidewayzSVT]

That's a nice feature - I didn't know that....

And you two - stop hijacking the thread - start your own thread and bash it out - I'm getting tired of reading through it....

Sorry, I'm done with that childish little bitch any way....:thumbsup:

[GerRrg281]

oh yeh...thats right....i remember hearing that in class now that somebody said something....all exhaust systems on newer cars are stainless steel.

[Shaffe]

yea Stainless Steel FTW

[Swiss026]

David - you're making friends on eBay now too.... :dunno:


99-04 Mustang GT Vortech Supercharger Item number: 230164718377

Description



Item Specifics - Item Condition
Condition: Used

01-04 Mustang GT Vortech V-1 Supercharger kit. May also work with 99-00 GT's but please do your homework befor bidding. Please make me offers if you do not wish to bid. However if you do not have the money or are a dreamer like (davidk0321) dont bother asking questions! Local pick up is welcome. Now for the good stuff kit comes with all of the following:

- V-1 Head Unit w/ all Pipes Hoses and Brackets ($3100)

- 10lb Pulley ($59)

- AMF Power Pipe ($249)

- 42 lb Injectors ($299)

- K&N Power Stack Filter Kit and 90mm (4 inch) MAF Adapter ($119)

- X Cal II MAF ($249)

- X Cal II programmer ($399)

- SVT Focus Fuel Pump ($129)

My Car put down 447 RWHP and 406 RWTQ! with this set up (*car also had 75mm throttle body, trickflow intake, full exhaust) Charger was run with ROYAL PURPLE changed every 1500 miles. Charger only has 5k miles on it. No problems, works mint, no shaft play or leaks. Look at my feedback, I only deal with Stangs. College Money forces Sale.

Charger is currently still on my car, when it sells, then ill remove it, pack it and ship it. Look all this up sepertly and youll find it alot more, these are the best parts money can buy and it comes in this great pack all ready to be bolted in. Please no low ball offers. thank you for reading and happy bidding. Any questions please ask befor you bid

** Car is also for sale if anyone is interested :) **

[VistaBlueGT]

^^^haha...PRICELESS :D

[Swiss026]

So random that I found that....Just was messing around and typed in supercharger and found that :jest:

[CrownVic98]

Why dont you get the GT500 mufflers. They are louder than the GT but still are factory. Just a suggestion (BTW, SLP sounds amazing on the 3V)

[Shaffe]

i think ima get the FRPP GTA mufflers. the ones that come on the shelby GT

[blueblazes]

roots/twinscrew blowers are just fine on stock gt motors.

Saleen and Roush both use roots style/twin screw blowers on their cars and they are nothing more than stock gt's with blower, chip, body kit, suspension.

It really boils down to how safe the tune is, and how much boost you run. Obviously the gt's dont have super strong internals so no more than 8-10lbs is recommended.

For example if you have a tuner who is clueless and tunes a forced induction car and the maf is pegging at 4k rpms and he tunes it anyways you will goto the track and detonate and blow the intake off lol.

I have a friend thats running a kenne belle on his gt he makes great power on it, only problem is its non-intercooled on his version so the iat's can get up there he runs 8lbs of boost on it, but the tuner knew what he was doing and it is tuned to pull timing the hotter it gets so the car is as safe in 120* heat as it is in 40* winter weather.

best advice that can be given is plan out what you want to do with the car and build in that direction.
Personally im not a big fan of the roots blowers on gt motors, UNLESS they have an intercooler option which can make them super expensive. Centrifugals are easier to install aftercoolers on and will run much cooler than roots without an intercooler. Downside to centrifugals is that they make their power at higher rpms, where as roots blowers are instant boost. Roots make for better stop light to stop light racing where your centrifugals will stand out in longer stretches 1/4 mile and highway pulls if thats your thing.

Centrifugals can be far cheaper than roots and are generally easier to install, but dont provide the power on demand so to speak. The roots will be more expensive and be a bit more involved installing but will give instant gratification.

No matter what you do, do your research and get a good tuner who knows what hes doing so you can get the most out of the money you spent.

[Pain Train79]

from what i understand i am lucky enough to live 45 minutes away from modular power house. people tell me that guy is great.

[GerRrg281]

from what i understand i am lucky enough to live 45 minutes away from modular power house. people tell me that guy is great.

:thumbsup: thats gotta be pretty sweet. if i was you, i would go down there with my checkbook. haha

[Pain Train79]

lol, i guess i am gonna have to. apparently i would be stupid to take my stang' anywhere else.

[davidk0321]

David - you're making friends on eBay now too.... :dunno:


99-04 Mustang GT Vortech Supercharger Item number: 230164718377

Description



Item Specifics - Item Condition
Condition: Used

01-04 Mustang GT Vortech V-1 Supercharger kit. May also work with 99-00 GT's but please do your homework befor bidding. Please make me offers if you do not wish to bid. However if you do not have the money or are a dreamer like (davidk0321) dont bother asking questions! Local pick up is welcome. Now for the good stuff kit comes with all of the following:

- V-1 Head Unit w/ all Pipes Hoses and Brackets ($3100)

- 10lb Pulley ($59)

- AMF Power Pipe ($249)

- 42 lb Injectors ($299)

- K&N Power Stack Filter Kit and 90mm (4 inch) MAF Adapter ($119)

- X Cal II MAF ($249)

- X Cal II programmer ($399)

- SVT Focus Fuel Pump ($129)

My Car put down 447 RWHP and 406 RWTQ! with this set up (*car also had 75mm throttle body, trickflow intake, full exhaust) Charger was run with ROYAL PURPLE changed every 1500 miles. Charger only has 5k miles on it. No problems, works mint, no shaft play or leaks. Look at my feedback, I only deal with Stangs. College Money forces Sale.

Charger is currently still on my car, when it sells, then ill remove it, pack it and ship it. Look all this up sepertly and youll find it alot more, these are the best parts money can buy and it comes in this great pack all ready to be bolted in. Please no low ball offers. thank you for reading and happy bidding. Any questions please ask befor you bid

** Car is also for sale if anyone is interested :) **

yeah that guy is a piece of work.......notice he didn't get any bids on his junk.....he is trying to get over 4k for a system you can buy brand new from MPH (mongoose kit) for 3800 (with tune). I offered him 2500 for it to put on my wife's 04 GT, he just keeps relisting starting at 3300 and getting no bids.....he might learn sometime. For the record slidewayz started all that name calling......apparently if you dont have a Cobra you are worthless.....

[Swiss026]

Hey man - not everyone can afford a Cobra. Hell - some can't even afford a V8 at all. Been happy with whatcha got is my $.02 :thumbsup:

[03SlidewayzSVT]

yeah that guy is a piece of work.......notice he didn't get any bids on his junk.....he is trying to get over 4k for a system you can buy brand new from MPH (mongoose kit) for 3800 (with tune). I offered him 2500 for it to put on my wife's 04 GT, he just keeps relisting starting at 3300 and getting no bids.....he might learn sometime. For the record slidewayz started all that name calling......apparently if you dont have a Cobra you are worthless.....


NO, just you!!! And if your dumbass looks back YOU started it!!!

[Shaffe]

hijakcers!

gimme my thread back!

lol

[Niehaus5oh]

poor shaffe lol... you decide on a midpipe? I don't even rem and don't feel like tryin to find it lol...

[Shaffe]

hahahaha.

nope lol. i ma run the Forda Racin mufflers the GTA ones. should give me just what im lookikn for

[davidk0321]

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NO, just you!!! And if your dumbass looks back YOU started it!!!


whatever

[davidk0321]

Hey man - not everyone can afford a Cobra. Hell - some can't even afford a V8 at all. Been happy with whatcha got is my $.02 :thumbsup:

Amen, I am real happy with the Vert, it is almost a necessity living on the coast.